Terminator: Dark Fate Was Problematic Because of James Cameron’s John Connor Death Decision

As a devoted fan of the Terminator franchise, I must say that I was both excited and apprehensive about Tim Miller’s return to the series as director of Terminator: Dark Fate. The reunion of Linda Hamilton, Edward Furlong, and Arnold Schwarzenegger promised an emotional journey reminiscent of the iconic Terminator 2: Judgment Day. However, the sudden demise of John Connor in the opening scene was a bitter pill to swallow for many fans, including myself.


In 2019, the creator and producer of the Terminator series, James Cameron, surprised many fans by rejoining the franchise. Yet, the movie’s director feels that the movie’s underperformance at the box office, which had the lowest earnings among all sequels in the series, was partly due to Cameron’s creative input and a particular contentious scene early in the film.

In a potential comeback that had fans eager, Terminator: Dark Fate brought back Linda Hamilton and Edward Furlong, recreating a cast dynamic reminiscent of Terminator 2: Judgment Day. However, the plot required Furlong’s de-aged character of John Connor to have a brief screen time, as he was killed off in the film’s opening scene by a T-800 that successfully completed its mission. This sudden demise of Connor left many fans dissatisfied, but Miller clarified that this decision was not entirely under his control. In an interview with Variety, he stated:

“Nobody sets out to disregard someone’s closely held childhood dreams. It’s no cause for vitriol. A lot of people didn’t like “Terminator: Dark Fate” for reasons I had nothing to do with. One, because it was the sixth film and another because we killed John Connor at the start, but if Jim Cameron wants that to happen – which I agree with by the way – then that’s what you do.”

Terminator: Dark Fate Sealed the Fate of Schwarzenegger’s Time in the Franchise

Despite no formal announcement that Arnold Schwarzenegger won’t star in another Terminator project, the underwhelming box office performance of Dark Fate appears to have wrapped up the narrative surrounding Sarah and John Connor, along with the famous T-800 model. With an estimated production cost of $185 million, a new Terminator film following this storyline seems unlikely given its disappointing gross of only $261 million.

Contrary to expectations, the movie received favorable reviews, earning a Tomatometer score of 70% from critics and an audience score of 82%. This places it among the top three highest-rated films in the franchise, but its box office performance was underwhelming. Interestingly, the franchise has found success with a new animated series called “Terminator Zero” on Netflix, which doesn’t rely on established characters. Now, it appears that James Cameron is planning another installment of the series.

The director has been fully committed to his “Avatar” series, yet recently proposed an innovative concept for a “Terminator” film. In an interview with Empire Magazine, Cameron expressed that this idea would expand the storyline beyond characters like John Connor.

In essence, it’s crucial to let go of the elements unique to the last four decades of the Terminator series while still adhering to its core principles. By immersing too deeply in these details, we risk alienating a new audience who may not share the same affinity for those aspects. This is a potential pitfall also seen with Avatar, but I believe we’ve demonstrated that we can cater to new audiences effectively. Therefore, I am confident that future Terminator films will not only be feasible but will excel in quality, as we discard specific symbols associated with the franchise.

In the meantime, enthusiasts can catch up on the current Terminator film series streaming across diverse platforms. For instance, The Terminator is available on Amazon Prime Video, Terminator 2: Judgment Day on Paramount+, and Terminator: Dark Fate on Apple TV+.

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2024-11-05 05:02