‘The Old Guard 2’ Director Victoria Mahoney Talks That Cliffhanger and Charlize Theron’s Walk Through Time

In 2020, the pandemic had a destructive impact across various sectors, and although it’s nothing compared to the tragic loss of millions of family members, the summer movie season suffered significantly during that difficult phase as well.

Despite some direct-to-consumer releases, event films were largely absent. Fortunately, Netflix managed to keep its summer lineup, and filmmaker Victoria Mahoney hinted through a pre-screening and enthusiastic tweet that Gina Prince-Bythewood’s The Old Guard would be a refreshing sight when it came out in July. After watching the emotionally charged action drama ahead of its release, I found myself completely in agreement with Mahoney’s praise for one of the few significant summer films we got that year.

It’s been discovered that Mahoney consistently watched “The Old Guard” during the course of the ongoing pandemic, and she wasn’t the only one. The movie quickly rose to become one of Netflix’s most-watched films at that time. Later on, Skydance CCO Dana Goldberg put forth Mahoney as a candidate to lead the sequel following Prince-Bythewood’s departure for “The Woman King”. This decision seemed sensible given Mahoney’s strong interest in the franchise, but also because she had recently made history by directing a “Star Wars” movie, making her the first woman to do so. Mahoney’s experience as a second unit director on J.J. Abrams’ “The Rise of Skywalker” (2019) equipped her well for handling the magnitude of her second feature film and her debut action movie as a main director.

J.J. Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy provided me with an expertly crafted, collaborative environment that enabled me to confidently excel without anxiety, as I shared with The Hollywood Reporter in anticipation of The Old Guard 2’s July 2nd release on Netflix,” Mahoney stated. “I don’t harbor the usual fears that others might expect.

In the sequel to “The Old Guard,” titled “The Old Guard 2,”, the story continues several months after the initial film, with Andromache/Andy (played by Charlize Theron) and her team of immortal warriors, collectively known as The Old Guard, carrying on their mission to improve the world. However, this momentum is disrupted when Andy’s long-lost immortal lover, Quỳnh (Veronica Ngô), reappears unexpectedly, alongside a new enigmatic immortal character named Discord (portrayed by Uma Thurman). The movie culminates in a jaw-dropping cliffhanger, hinting at an impending rescue operation. Director Gina Prince-Bythewood shares that she too is eagerly waiting for resolution, just like the rest of the audience.

Mahoney expresses that he wasn’t part of those discussions, but he wishes there were, for both audiences and cast/crew. He mentions having multiple films in production, hoping for a positive resolution, and expressing excitement about the potential outcomes, particularly what might transpire when they exit the door at the end. Who wouldn’t be intrigued to find out where they’re heading?

In the latest chat with THR, Mahoney delves into Theron’s character’s chronological stroll through time, then reminisces about a striking flashback featuring Daisy Ridley’s “Dark Rey”.

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I assumed I was familiar with your background, but I recently learned some interesting facts. It turns out that your Sundance Lab advisor is known as “McQ,” and this relationship extended to the point where you were offering insightful comments on Angela Bassett’s character in Mission: Impossible – Fallout. Since both of you emphasize the significance of emotions in action, could it be that Christopher McQuarrie played a role in instilling this philosophy within you?

To start off, I must express my admiration for your dedication in handling that bit of trivia with such authenticity. McQ holds a special place in my heart, and as a devotee of Korean action movies, I deeply resonate with the intensity and emotion they portray. Frankly, I was unaware that we were supposed to avoid such passionate execution – it’s just become second nature to me after years of watching Korean films.

What McQ accomplished for me, through our continuous brainstorming sessions filled with geeky ideas over the years, was ensuring that the emotional depth remained an integral part of the overall narrative alongside the action. I particularly appreciate how these action-dramas manage to maintain a delicate balance, allowing the drama and action to coexist independently yet intertwined.

Did you intentionally draw inspiration from the helicopter scene in ‘Fallout’ when planning the helicopter sequence for ‘Old Guard 2’, since both films feature the same helicopter pilot, Fred North?

Charlize Theron was enthusiastic about experimenting with the helicopter scene, and Fred North contributed ideas for it. The structure used as a backdrop in the sequence is fictional but modeled after a Zaha Hadid design I discovered. Due to the constraints of the location, we had to adapt our actions within certain limitations, and the final product was tailored to fit both the space available and the story’s requirements. Dan Bradley, serving as our second unit director, was particularly supportive in executing this sequence.

Given that I recall you expressing a positive response to the initial release of Old Guard even before it hit the screens, it seemed quite logical when you were appointed for the sequel. Was it Gina Prince-Bythewood who suggested you for the role after she agreed to direct The Woman King?

You’ve charmed me in countless ways, as I had completely forgotten about it. My reaction was genuine and unfiltered in the moment, which you noticed and appreciated, and for that, I’m grateful. Dana Goldberg at Skydance suggested my involvement, and we’ve spoken before, during, and after our conversations. I valued Gina’s opinion regarding character aspects and the intricate immortality rules she established. To ensure I remained faithful to these rules, I consulted with Gina throughout the process, using the opening sequence as a guide. So, I discussed my ideas with her frequently to maintain the integrity of the original.

Can you explain how the captivating scene was created, where Andy (played by Theron) travels through different times to face her past?

The experience was truly enjoyable, and just to clarify, we filmed it twice. We didn’t practice beforehand; instead, we did it on the spot. Our aim was to create a series of shots that would give viewers a sense of what it might be like for someone who has lived for millennia to walk through a city or town they have visited countless times. Whenever I return to cities I’ve been to many times, memories flood back to me. Every time I turn a corner, something triggers a thought, a person, or an object from my past. So, I imagined that Andy would remember her loved ones in that place.

The original storyline featured more battles and war scenes, which were entertaining structurally, but tended to be repetitive compared to the first movie’s action sequences. Instead, I wanted to emphasize the relationships and the lighter aspects of her life, creating an opportunity for her friends to shine in a brighter, happier environment. The moments when Andy walks and absorbs light are particularly poignant; they evoke strong memories. Everything you see was done practically, without any special effects, except for color correction. We even rehearsed these scenes using small cameras on the Cinecittà Studios backlot with some assistants. [Cinematographer] Barry Aykroyd and I were the ones capturing these moments.

In that sequence, everyone had a role to play, which I found delightful since it demonstrates the power of teamwork. It’s great that you mentioned it because it serves as an example of what can be achieved when everyone contributes, from the pre-production phase to post-production. In essence, every crew member, from the costume designer to the actors and prop masters, played a significant part in shaping those practical aspects: the costumes, the cast, and the props.

Later, she walks up to Quỳnh at a familiar spot, and this intricate figure-eight camera shot brings us back to the present moment. This was one of the scenes in the film where we, as directors, had an opportunity to experiment in a manner that was both difficult and exhilarating. We were filled with uncertainty, thinking, “Will it succeed? Will all the pieces fall into place?” I’m grateful for how everyone collaborated to make this scene not only work, but also turn out beautifully.

In our recent conversation about Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, you must have learned numerous filmmaking strategies from the set. Have any of those techniques proved useful during this project?

As a fortunate collaborator, J.J. Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy provided me with an unparalleled professional environment, filled with creativity and camaraderie, that empowered me to thrive in any setting without feeling overwhelmed. No matter the scale of future projects I undertake, they will always pale in comparison to the epic scope of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. During the intense ship battle sequence, I found myself directing horses and flames – an exhilarating and chaotic experience that remains unmatched.

As a gamer, here’s how I approach each new level or challenge: With utmost clarity, I strategize every move, ensuring efficiency, open communication, and genuine enthusiasm. Fear doesn’t hold me back like it might seem. Instead, I fear missing the essence of the gameplay itself. However, I’m not afraid that we, my team and I, won’t collaborate effectively, utilizing form, functionality, clear communication, and proper preparation to conquer whatever lies ahead. I trust in our ability to adapt and overcome.

Additionally, you shared with me a vivid image of Daisy Ridley as Dark Rey dancing to Prince during breaks on set.

(Laughs heartily.) Goodness gracious, that’s incredibly amusing! I happened to watch her film just recently, and we were even exchanging messages. Yet, the thought of her performance has been lingering in my mind ever since. Regrettably, I didn’t muster the courage to record a video. I was cautious about avoiding such an action. However, if only I had been able to do so, it would have been a delight for Daisy and me, as her portrayal of Dark Rey in that dance number was simply astounding!

Did you continue the dance parties on The Old Guard 2?

Indeed, music can be an effective resource during filming when there’s excessive noise or when actors need to remain motionless for various reasons such as weather conditions or repairs. Music serves as a calming agent, helping individuals on camera and crew members to stay focused amidst the bustle. It acts as a barrier, shielding people from feeling overwhelmed by the chaos surrounding them. In tense situations, music functions as a relief valve, reminding everyone of the enjoyment and pleasure associated with their roles. To put it simply, I employ music as a means to maintain order on set. Playing a Prince song, for instance, is almost guaranteed to bring smiles and movement from people – an instant mood booster!

Now that you’ve produced your own action film, do you feel a sense of relief knowing that the stunt community will likely be recognized among their professional peers, potentially receiving Oscar recognition in 2028?

It’s been incredibly tough for those of us who have followed movies from recent years and even trace back to the ’70s. Many contemporary projects seem to draw inspiration from these works. Notably, scenes from the South Korean film “The Villainess” appear to be replicated in American productions. It’s disheartening that the creators of such unique pieces haven’t received due recognition for their timeless contributions.

There are individuals currently not receiving recognition this year, but Cruise will be among them. Ideally, one of Cruise or Keanu would have been the first to receive it when it was initially given out. This is a global conversation, with stunt teams worldwide contributing to its shaping. I’m eager to see them finally honored, as it’s well past due. The anticipation for the events and parties surrounding their recognition is palpable. (Chuckles.) It will be a victory for all involved.

Almost three years have passed since you completed the main filming for “The Old Guard 2,” and the long wait has been agonizing for the fans. Have there been any positive aspects that came out of the delay and the protracted post-production period?

Absolutely, there’s always a positive aspect to consider. At the close of each day, I take a brief moment to reflect on what insights we gained and how we might approach things differently next time. This practice is something I carry out during planning stages, filming, and editing as well.

After the strike, when production resumed, we were fortunate to have access to many skilled individuals who typically wouldn’t have been available due to other commitments. This late-stage team turned out to be a stellar group of incredibly talented professionals – a veritable dream team. Lorne Balfe, our composer, was with us from the start, but had to move on to another project called “Mission”. However, we managed to keep him and his team as score producers for our film. So, despite the initial challenges, we ended up with an exceptional team that brought our movie to completion, which is set to release on July 2nd. (Laughs).

The ending of The Old Guard 2 is a nerve-wracking cliffhanger. I find myself consoling myself by thinking that Netflix wouldn’t leave things like that hanging unless they were planning a third film. Can you give any insight into the possibility of a third movie at this point?

I wasn’t part of those conversations, but I wish they were taking place. Whether it’s for audiences, cast and crew, or Netflix producers, I hope it happens. However, by the time any decision is made, I’ll be moving on. Currently, I have three films in production that I’m juggling. I can only hope that everything works out in an entertaining manner. It would surely be thrilling to discover where they end up after exiting through the door [at the end]. Aren’t we all intrigued to know their destination? We know what they’re pursuing, but where will they ultimately settle down?

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The Old Guard 2 is now streaming on Netflix.

2025-07-05 19:25

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